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Merchant Marine and terrorism

Sections of the first version of "Unknown Marine " scuttled in March 2008, are being updated one by one, naturally. At first they all come back online course fully "modernized", unless they really are "overwhelmed" by the zeitgeist.

(text of December 17, 2007 "up." the February 13 2009)

Algeria, crews Algeria Ferries comme tous les visiteurs en général, se seraient fort bien passés de ce qui est arrivé au Tariq Ibn Ziyad le samedi 15 décembre 2007 à Marseille. Cela dit l'incident se limita à une grave perte de temps et bien sûr à quelques émotions fortes. En mer tout peut arriver, même rien du tout. L'occasion est venue pour moi d'évoquer ici le terrorisme et la Mer , nous sommes tous concernés par cette "activité" d'autodestruction humaine, c'est dans l'air du temps.

Le Tariq de retour précipité à Marseille, by Sea and Navy.

former Marine I am also sailed on board car ferries in the early 1980s, generally during the summer and especially on the line Dieppe to Newhaven , but a "little "as between Havre and Southampton. I also made a few crossings between Dover and Dunkirk. My employer then Cie de Navigation Denis Frères, I "lent" Sometimes this era " Naval Armament SNCF " , the ancestor of Sea France today. On the other hand, the Naval Weapons station was more known to the public under the name "Sealink " and these ferries are also the "big why" I lived in Dieppe from 1982 to 1991 ...

Dieppe downtown view of the East Cliff. The ferry terminal was there "sometime" before that horrible "Marina" ...

The first comment that may be necessary about the ferries is that this navigation is first very routine, but it is not (at all) if inclement weather, course . Without the big time he goes on in general (almost) anything. However, it is sometimes an illusion. During the 1980s Paris was several times "for further periods" the scene of bombings in mysterious consequences of quarrels between the government of "pays.fr" very bad company and forced the "Middle East" ...

In Marseille the Car-Ferry Tariq ibn Ziyad

"C e I feared for my time ferries " without ever saying, is indeed reached the car ferry Tariq Ibn Ziad Algerian December 15, 2007. I certainly was not alone in thinking but in Dieppe, few of us dared to speak openly. On board as "ground" was a taboo subject.
It was once the car ferry Tariq and its 1462 passengers. He cut his way blandly as usual from Marseilles to Algiers in the afternoon, when a phone call anonymously past the consulate of Algeria in Lyon, advised the authorities of the presence of a bomb in one of 466 vehicles parked in car deck. Hard-drive ...

Car-Ferry II Tassilli

When a message "of this kind" is received on board, there is only one decision to make a return "helter- dare "to a starting point, followed by detailed searches on arrival fully accompanied by deminers. In a way the attack was "successful". Indeed, although there is no real implementation of a terrible project, the only malicious intent to piss off everyone there. Indeed, will know what it really is? The credibility of this kind of announcement is low, but it must be checked whatever the cost ...

Car-Ferry El Djazair II

other hand it is well known to all that "Algeria's official ", Its citizens and visitors can always be" targeted "by the bombings for many years. It happened at a point where it is now part of the branding of the country until to overshadow everything else, which is however much nicer.

A day in the future, these problems will be solved and disastrous "classified" because "everything is arranged even evil " said one of my friends. But in the meantime This requires open eyes and "tighten the buttocks" ...

In January 1990, Chartres was Dieppois.

If disturbing telephone threats remain easy alas, their actual and concrete is still (thankfully) relatively unlikely, here's why:
"From one point of view" IF really were asked one or more bombs aboard a car ferry, this would indeed be formidable and potentially terrible, as likely to make a large number of casualties in a very short time. Furthermore it would be pretty spectacular to talk about it a long time and I understand that this is the first goal pursued by the "organizers" of this kind of operation.

Since the disaster accidentally ' Herald of Free Enterprise in 1987, the vulnerability of ro-ro is better known to the general public, starting with the car ferries. A ferry or car ferry naturally feared accidental ingress of water, particularly at its main car deck . Its continuous deck along the front to the rear is perfectly clear of any obstructions for easier handling so-called "horizontal". Far this is the strong point of such a ship business standpoint, much is also the weak point its security.
Think about it yourself simply by putting a little water in a frying pan . Then take in hand, to find that even less than a millimeter in height enough water to make it very difficult to conduct and "maintaining flat" of your instrument ...

You can imagine exactly what happened to this unfortunate car ferry, when he had to drink "a little too much" because of its front access door left open accidentally as the result of 'clumsiness, negligence and especially during the rush of his equipment at Zeebrugge. It was sudden and "final", so that all the mechanics who were then in the machinery spaces were trapped. None of them survived. All other persons on board were left "wet" according to where they were "at time T " randomly, for better or for worse.

At the School of the Merchant Marine on "intellectualizes" (of course) this dangerous phenomenon known as " free surface," by which a body of water (to mention only the liquid ) being spread over a large area, will quickly and completely from one side to another. This can also be calculated but of course our teachers invited us to calculate only the ... This kind of calculation also serves to avoid "practical" unintended ...

Long live Chartres under her second name Express Santorini

It is also not dangerous "only" at sea, because the tanker-truck drivers must also taken into account on the road. It is easy to imagine that a bomb may be "well placed" on board a ferry. That said from there, I can again reassure . It is indeed thankfully, harder to do than to tell anyone has not been a sailor . Who will complain?
Firstly if the "procedure" is chosen the one quoted by the press Franco-Algerian car bomb equipped with a bright explosive device, the result will be "random". Indeed it is not so easy for motorists to choose their place in the garage , the latter being determined by the order came on board and the available space left by the heavy freight. So what the hell misplaced vehicle will be in the garage space, would largely be followed by a fire that "risk" to be neutralized early on by the crew. This does not "worth not "a spectacular wreck, given the risks taken by the terrorists ...

Second" good " choose the place of craft involves knowing where are the weaknesses of the ship . It is not within reach of everyone. It must be (or have been) Marine Shipyard specialist or have been "trained." The real difficulties begin ... To be sure of success this kind of "kick", it seems to me that itself have the craft gently in a location specially chosen edge is required. It can be placed under the bridge near garage de l'accès avant ou bien sous l'arrière du navire, dans le local du servo-moteur, par exemples.

D'autre part "il faudrait" aussi l'installer de façon à ce qu'il ne risque pas d'être aperçu par un gars qui passerait "par ici" dans le cadre de son travail, ce qui est hautement probable dans le cadre de sa ronde de service avant le départ ou pendant son quart "en bas"... Du " kekcékça? " au " Venez voir un peu ce truc ", puis à l'Alerte Générale avant "l'heure H", le temps passe vite. Je n'en dirai pas plus, on n'est pas ici dans une session de formation en mauvais coups. C'est dire que le risque n'est not so high that it is sometimes manipulated by the media says ...

The beautiful Achille Lauro hijacking was the victim of a perfectly "trash", in which a short old man, crippled passenger furthermore was brutally thrown to the "locker" because Jewish ... These pirates were not sailors. As a result, the Neapolitans have the edge in their stunning display of colors! They were even "made the pockets." This means ...

But we have not yet destroyed the ship at sea in peacetime. Let's hope it lasts! This kind of action on board ship can be a priori " case specialists "whose" sketch "departs significantly from that of the bombers rotting people's lives for years, starting with the people in" Land of Islam ", which always finds the most Many of the victims. This "detail" is too often forgotten by Western populations, which remain permanently seized by a fear that too much more maintained by the world media.

hole the "Safely" ? No "He's Rainbow Warrior ...

These" specialists "who are they or who may be or become? The Marine trade, those who were, or military "pro" commandos marine example. The guys of "special services" in the specialty "service -action" could (conditional to stress) do, technically speaking. That said I can not imagine military "pro", let alone organize and execute such a plan, even in the special services to "traditions" most "twisted" in any State "civilized" whatsoever. Our world is really civilized? Yes and no ... Extensive debate is beyond the scope of my site-blog.

The maritime terrorism has always existed, by piracy or war. The largest maritime terror of all time does not it was the Second World War? Starting with the Battle of the Atlantic or the Pacific war, misnamed during those years. Terror at sea has manifested itself in the most terrible of all time in the Baltic Sea in early 1945.

A rare photo devoted to Goya.

These Germans "were paying the bill" in 1945. That said, even during the Second World War, when a rare level of collective savagery was reached, no marine military has voluntarily executed in cold blood such an attack. Even for the case of Goya and Wilhelm Gustloff during the mass flight of refugees from East Prussia, those who have "done the deed" do not realize . The disasters of military ships during the war were generally the "fruit" of hasty decisions made in an atmosphere of frenzied battle. This was the result of world war, not a cold calculating criminal, like the attacks of our "modern times".

The Rainbow Warrior II replaces the first. Without this very special
"With France," Greenpeace would not have had a new ...

We have today and the other in a completely different kind of knowledge regularly take bad shots of CIA and KGB during the "Cold War ," when are not those of the DGSE! The destruction of the Rainbow Warrior Greenpeace will not be forgotten before long. Those who blew up the ship, however, acted to ensure not to kill anyone , which is part of their training. The photographer killed had not understood the risk he was taking and the operation was apparently so bad it "up" in advance, that a serious wrong note had strong "chance" to occur ...

The Black Prince "men torpedoes," Valerio Borghese, unforgettable Italian submarine.

The Prince Borghese until his death was not known as a "soft". But he would not definitely not a ferry sunk with its passengers. With him was the fear for the Royal Navy, not the civilians! Since 1945, when a state agency was interested in committing such an act, that would be ... When the cruise ship Achille Lauro was the subject of terrorism, it was diverted, not savagely destroyed with explosives. It has to be seen, what was feared aboard Tariq ibn Ziyad is never happened .
We also see that the military's most wicked of the world does not plan these things. When an attack is committed in France, it is usually in the middle of Paris that "it is" not in Dieppe! On the other hand, the terrorists seem to be truly "passionate" by the Civil Aviation Authority. Merchant Navy and car ferries do not interest obviously not. This is already happened. Who will complain?
It is as if there was a "code of conduct" is by summarizing: " not boats!

During the most terrible battles (Atlantic) during the worst of wars, the elders of the "Mar-Mar" what were often guys U-boats, were long mortified to have to kill the others ...

This finding may encourage me to write only for Merchant Seamen can. They "could" do much more easily than any other. But they do not . There are probably several reasons. It's very simple! One way Overall, very few employees dare destroy their working tools, even that of others. It is also being marine military or civilian, is a particular activity. Before being a Business , Navy is a Culture . In 1991 when I left navigation, I understood more things in common with any Filipino seafarer, with my French colleagues (e) s of the world of Alcatel Telecom, for example.

In fact, we've never seen or even heard of marine fisheries, or other cable-laying work, trade or military have coldly destroyed (or attempted to do) civilian ships and their passengers in time of peace, out of any conflict between states! On the other hand, even in times of conflict, everything is done to avoid this ...

Werner Hartenstein wanted to save his shipwrecked

He even "took" thinking and writing, for this idea emerges clearly in my head because it's so obvious that that will thinking? Quite simply, this is not possible ... Neither me, nor from any Marine or former Marine.

Consequently, terrorists or others who might or souhaiterait le devenir, y ont peut-être pensé. Mais ils y renoncent vite en examinant l'aspect technique de la chose. Je suppose d'autre part, que si un marin fut un jour "consulté" à ce propos la réponse fut le mot de Cambronne ou tout autre expression équivalente...

Vision américaine du Nautilus du capitaine Nemo , terroriste avant l'époque. Quiconque a lu les romans les moins connus de Jules Verne , (les meilleurs) sait que le terrorisme ou toutes les formes de résistance politique constituaient son sujet préféré .

Mon explication vaut ce qu'elle vaut, sans doute est-elle incomplète. Mais qui alors me dira pourquoi les aéroports, les avions, les gares comme les trains, parfois même les bus ou les musées, sont régulièrement les victimes du pire et très rarement les navires? Qui n'a pas remarqué que les ports de commerce , encore il y a peu de temps presque entièrement ouverts à n'importe quel passage, (jusqu'à ces dernières années) ne sont jamais la cible de ce genre de mauvais coup?

Les fameuses dispositions ISPS me semblent donc "à côté de la plaque"! Leur premier résultat est d'empêcher les rares marins qui en ont encore le temps, (revoir la série d'émissions de TV "Thalassa" consacrée aux PC) d'aller même pour seulement quelques heures à la découverte des pays où ils passent. Ils y passent maintenant comme passent les valises... De fait, pour voyager prenez donc le bateau. C'est plus sûr!

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Note: In 12 years of sailing I have sometimes encountered among our people "not funny" to live, sometimes very unfair, for example. But terrorists? It does not exist. Even less than perfect men marine elsewhere!

Thanks to both sites Memory Air France & Spain Navy. These two sites-blogs here evoke the old terrorism. Very interesting. On the other hand, the site will let Zentropa visit also is a site "unusual" and sulfur.

Comments Received and Responses:

"Hello, I struggle to capture the interest of the irony in" aid of France 'as the new Rainbow Warrior when a man died because of France ... Certainly it is a detail page in this long but thank you for enlighten me. Constance 04.01.2008 ".

" I just have a little difficulty understanding the purpose or the substance of this long post, many themes. See you soon. Zamac on 04.01.2008. "

Good questions! This" with France "can pass for black humor or doubtful indeed ... We have not done too much advertising there above at the time yes, but ... Who paid? When was no longer possible to deny, Greenpeace was subsequently compensated for his destroyed boat. Taxpayers French would have liked to dispense with this farce I suppose, starting with me!
other hand there have been worse, any the thing was also to pay the family of the Portuguese photographer who fell victim to the collective stupidity. from France, more than "because of France". Everyone has not endorsed this action at least "improper. I loved the word of President Clinton. Caught by time, as the length of this article, I have not had time to complete Article "Greenpeace" on "Memories".

I wanted to show that it is not easy far from it, to sow death aboard a passenger ship to board an airliner. That being said I wonder why it does not attack more often ships. Who will complain? But to maintain "as" it may be interesting to understand. At first the mere fact that sailors are never "like" to do that seems a plausible explanation.

That said if ever another answer comes to us here, my first goal will be met! A site-blog is in my view to disseminate information that can not "come out" in the normal press. In fact I do not take seriously the security measures taken are always spectacular "after" and that we are rotting life. This is my second message. Although

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